Comments on: Rome: “Catholics adore the one God, Allah”

By: Brendon Ward

Brendon Ward — Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:39:45 +0000

Nice. That Catholic catechism has some very, very dodgy doctrinal statements most pew sitting Catholics would never be aware of. They do after all, believe they are members of the church, when, according to Romes own doctrine, those in the pews are NOT the church, but the benefactors of the church’s ministry.

One of their doctrines is that man is actually a god in his own right. Not elohim, lower case, to which Psalm 82:6 refers, but El, capital case. It was referenced in a Ken Hovind DVD, and its unfortunate I cannot find the reference.

On another note:

I have a friend, Ben Taylor, who is putting together a website to network some of the various Reformed groups around the country (e.g. Reformed, Reformed Baptist, Grace Presbyterian…). I have copied a link from you links page to him. He was particularly interested in links to New Zealand blog sites of/from a Reformed position.

By: Dominic Bnonn Tennant

Dominic Bnonn Tennant — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:24:58 +0000

Hey James, sure, that’s another way to frame the argument. But there are two problems for you:

Firstly, if your argument is valid, then my argument is valid. So you’re “defeating” me by handing me victory. My reductio ad absurdum goes through by your own implicit admission.

Secondly, I don’t see how your [4] is any better than mine. It’s obviously just as absurd to say that Muslims worship YHVH as to say that Catholics worship Allah. And if you don’t think it’s obvious, you need to explain why not. In what sense is Allah identical to YHVH?

Or… wait, don’t protestants also adore the one God? Err, why, yes they do! Oh my! Protestants are secretly islamic!

And if Protestants were to claim that Muslims adore the one God, then the argument would be equally valid against them. Can you point me to any Protestant group who claims this? And explain why I should take them as representative of all Protestants?

By: James Strong

James Strong — Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:42:22 +0000

How about this:
1. Muslims and Catholics together adore the one God
2. Catholics adore Yaweh
3. Therefore, Yaweh is the one God
4. Therefore, Muslims adore Yaweh.

Or… wait, don’t protestants also adore the one God? Err, why, yes they do! Oh my! Protestants are secretly islamic!

I’m going to assume sarcasm, but your argument makes no sense.

By: steve hays

steve hays — Thu, 05 May 2011 13:18:35 +0000

But you’re missing the point. The question is whether or not the church of Rome is the one true Islamic sect. You still can’t compare the one, holy, catholic, and apostlic Islamic sect with those schismatic Prots!